Reaction as Manchester United lose 4-1 to Como in the Champions League, to increase the pressure on manager Michael Carrick
Carrick apologised to the 700 Man Utd fans after the final whistle, ignoring his players in the process
After the match, captain Bruno Fernandes criticised Carrick's tactics, saying 'you have to be more brave' and urging the 'manager and the staff' to 'take the risk'
Asked about his future, Carrick said he 'had to apologise to the supporters' and that he's 'really angry' about the situation
The defeat leaves Man Utd with just one win in their last nine matches - they're at home to Bournemouth in the Premier Leauge on Sunday
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Whilst on their own Martinez or Fernandes' comments could be excused (though not great in either case) when looked at together, a week apart, they speak to a culture at Man Utd where accountability is dodged and blame shifted. Seems like a rotten institution to me.
Sam, Cambridge
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Jamie Carragher
Former Liverpool defender on CBS Sports
We said Lisandro Martinez was bang out of order last week for calling out the hierarchy above him and for Bruno Fernandes to do that is a disgrace really.
Last season he got 'player of the year'. That was on the back of Michael Carrick becoming manager.
He wouldn't have got that reward without Michael Carrick because Carrick put him back in his rightful position and he then went on to have a fantastic season because he's a talented footballer.
In terms of attitude and the way he goes about things, it's not right at all. He's reacted like that because he's been been brought off. He's embarrassed by the manager and he's brought him off.
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'How bad was it?' is a question that was being pondered by fans and football pundits alike on Wednesday night as Manchester United head coach Michael Carrick and captain Bruno Fernandes were launching into their own post-match debrief in a very public manner...
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Image source, Getty ImagesWell, it certainly wasn't pretty as far as Manchester United were concerned.
Cesc Fabregas' Como side cut through them time and again with the visitors often left chasing shadows.
In fact, Como's 594 completed passes were the most against United in the Champions League since Barcelona in April 2019 (725).
It led to a situation where, after Jacobo Ramon's header for the Italians, United found themselves four goals down in a Champions League match for the first time since November 1994, when they were beaten 4-0 by Barcelona.
Only Joshua Zirkzee's injury-time consolation prevented United suffering their joint second-worst European defeat of all time.
It was an entirely fair scoreline as well with Como creating four Opta-defined 'big chances' to United's one and comfortably winning the xG, too.
The embarrassment was heightened by the knowledge that when United were last crowned European champions in 2008, Como were playing semi-professional football in front of a couple of hundred spectators in Serie D.
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Man Utd players are overpaid and under worked. They feel they are untouchable. I’d rather finish 15th with academy players who care than sack Carrick and get Europe only for the next manager to be sacked when they stop trying. Time to drop the stroppy players.
Paddy, Dublin
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Man Utd is like a house with black mould. It doesn't matter how many surface level changes you make, the root of the problem is still there. The whole thing needs ripping out and replacing. Executives, players and manager.
Richard, South Wales
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Totally unacceptable from the captain, who should be the embodiment of unity and respect in the team. To call out the manager after such a poor team performance shows Bruno should no longer be a part of Manchester United's long-term plans.
Adam, Bristol
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Only a week ago, Lisandro Martinez kicked up a storm by criticising the Manchester United hierarchy after a Champions League defeat.
Now United captain Bruno Fernandes has rounded on the tactics employed by head coach Michael Carrick following a humiliating 4-1 loss at Champions League debutants Como.
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Image source, Getty ImagesTold of the comments made by his captain Bruno Fernandes in his post-match news conference, Michael Carrick offered a curt response:
"There's a little bit of whatever system you play, whatever tactics you play, if you don't run, and you don't run forward, and you don't run back, you aren't going to win."
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If Michael Carrick was angry about the 4-1 scoreline and the manner of Manchester United's capitulation against a Como side playing in their first Champions League campaign, then Bruno Fernandes' scathing post-match interview will not have improved his mood.
The United captain turned on the club's head coach, criticising his tactical approach.
"It's a decision from the staff to not press man to man and sometimes leave space behind and try to get the ball, but sometimes when you give too much the ball to these teams they get confidence," he told broadcaster TNT Sports after the humiliating defeat.
Asked directly whether Carrick got his tactics wrong, Fernandes added: "That's on the manager and staff to see it, not me. Sometimes you have to be more brave under pressure, take the risk of pressing high and making them uncomfortable."
'That is on the manager' - Fernandes on Man Utd tactics
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Image source, Getty ImagesMichael Carrick was asked how he would raise the mood before Manchester United's next match - at home to Bournemouth in the Premier League on Sunday:
“Again, it's not about me. I'm okay, I'm bitterly disappointed, I'm frustrated, more than frustrated, I’m really angry to be honest, but you've got to move on to what's next.
"See what that looks like at this moment in time, there's a lot to do before that next game and to get the team ready because that was a difficult night for everyone tonight.”
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Michael Carrick seemed to ignore the Manchester United players at the full-time whistle as he went to acknowledge the travelling supporters, repeatedly holding his hands up in apology, in the manner of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer following the 4-1 defeat at Watford in November 2021 - which led to his dismissal 24 hours later.
"I have to apologise to the supporters," said the former United midfielder.
"I care about this football club as much as anyone, if not more, with the position that I'm in and what I value this football club. For us to play in that way is not acceptable."
And he added: "I'm feeling the same as them. We've got a lot of values in this football club; what we represent and how we want to go about it. We might win, we might lose, but the way we went about it tonight wasn't acceptable. I just wanted to let the fans know that I feel for them.
"Listen. I've not given my own position any thought - this is for the supporters - I was one of them watching that and I wasn't happy all."
Carrick says sorry to Man Utd fans and then walks straight off pitch
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Simon Stone
BBC Sport Manchester United reporter in Como
Man Utd humbled by four-goal Como to pile pressure on Carrick
Manchester United suffered one of the worst European nights in their history against Como to pile the pressure on beleaguered boss Michael Carrick.
Eight days after conceding in the first minute to Atletico Madrid, United's defences were breached after 118 seconds as brilliant Argentina playmaker Nico Paz scored the first of his double.
It meant United became the first English team in history to concede in the first two minutes of consecutive major European matches, something no-one at Old Trafford wants to be associated with.
Paz scored twice, and set up Tasos Douvikas in between, before Jacobo Ramon powered home a header for number four.
Skipper Bruno Fernandes was replaced by Joshua Zirkzee midway through the second half after Matheus Cunha and Andrey Santos - £110m-worth of Ineos signings - were taken off at half-time.
Zirkzee beat the offside trap to calmly score a consolation from fellow substitute Amad Diallo's cross in stoppage time, but that did nothing to improve the mood.
Glad you could join us for our Champions League debrief.
Arsenal claimed a fantastic point at Bayern Munich and Aston Villa maintained their 100% start...but there is only one place we can begin - Manchester United's 4-1 humiliation at Champions League debutants Como.
Head coach Michael Carrick held up his hands after the defeat as he apologised to the travelling supporters, before captain Bruno Fernandes rounded on his tactics.
So much to pick through - let's start with the match details...
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